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nypbbob
The Forest Gate Development

Property Info:

The Forest Gate Condominium conversion project is located at 431, 435, 441 Vine Street Atlanta, GA 3031. The vine street area is an up and coming area with continuous, ongoing improvements developing all around. The Forest Gate Condominiums are currently 3-separated Apartment complexes located adjacent to each other. Each unit consists of 12 separate units that will be converted into 36 three-story luxury condominiums. Forest Gate Condominiums will is located minutes from: The Georgia Dome and The New Georgia Aquarium. Recently, the Gate Way Apartments, were developed adjacent our proposed acquisition and it is currently valued at 65 million dollars. Occupancy acheived very quickly.

Property Status: Ready To Convert and Pre Sell

Total Units: 36 Units

Acquisition Price: $950,000

Opportunity: Acquire, and then move to presales and conversion ASAP.

Project Overview includes:

· Principle has experienced developer ready to begin the development.
· If lender/investor requires presale deposits to leverage the conversion costs, Principle has real estate professionals readied to market and pre-sell the units. Principle projects it will take 30-90 days to sell 100% of all the units. If acquisition lender/investor opts not to provide conversion capital, Principle has lenders lined up in order to provide the mezzanine funding needed to fully convert the Forest Gate Condominiums.

· Principle projects the entire development to be complete within 6 months of acquisition.

Projected Pro-Forma: Average area rates for similar units have ranged from $150,000 to $175,000 dollars.

A) Projected Sales *Based on a combined, conservative average sales price of $160,000.

36 Units: $5,940,000
Gross Total Sales: +5,940,000

cool.gif Projected Costs

Acquisition: $950,000 includes

Construction: $756,000*

Acquisition Interest/Fee's: $300,000**

Total Project Costs: - $2,006,000**

*Principle is projecting the conversion cost to be $21,000 per unit
** Expected Lender/Investor fee's, Broker Fee's Where Applicable
*** Or $55,000 per unit total

C) Projected Balance

Sales: +$5,940,000
Costs: - $2,006,000

Net Total: +$3,934,000

NEED TO CLOSE IN 30 DAYS. PRINCIPLES FICO's 660+. Were shooting for a program with an interest reserve component built in.

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loanuniverse
How much equity at acquisition?

How much equity to be provided during conversion? “deferred equity”

How much are the rental rates for the units now?

You said experienced. How many conversions? How many units in each conversion on average? In the same area? In the same price range?

What is the occupancy?

What is the NOI of the property now? How much would it be stabilized?

Why do you call a $160M condo a luxury condo? “tone down the marketing, we are not buying the condos”

Do not know about the area, but I know that I will find it difficult to get an appraiser to give me a discounted value upon completion of improvements in the three weeks that the lender will have.

Is the borrower willing to go for an acquisition loan first to give time for the underwriting of the conversion?

nypbbob
PLEASE SEE COMMENTS IN CAPS

THANK YOU FOR TAKNG THE TIME TO POST QUESTIONS

QUOTE(loanuniverse @ Dec 2 2005, 09:28 AM)

How much equity at acquisition?

CLIENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE 90% LOAN TO VALUE.

How much equity to be provided during conversion? “deferred equity”

THE DEFFERED EQUITY WILL BE $1,150,000

How much are the rental rates for the units now?

BUILDING IS EMPTY WHICH HELPS ON THE CONVERSION PART.

You said experienced. How many conversions? How many units in each conversion on average? In the same area? In the same price range?

BETWEEN THE TW PARNERS, NEARLY A HALF DOZEN. THE GC THEY ARE USING HAS 30 OR SO UNDER HIS BELT. GC IS LOCAL. PRINCIPLES EXPERIENCES BOTH STATESIDE AND EUROPE.

What is the occupancy?

O% OCCUPANCY.  READY TO GO INTO CONVERSION. THE ARHCITECT AND SITE PLANNER WILL HAVE THEIR WORK COMPLETED IN THREE WEEKS.

What is the NOI of the property now? How much would it be stabilized?

Why do you call a $160K condo a luxury condo? “tone down the marketing, we are not buying the condos”

smile.gif WITH AMENITIES INSIDE AND OUT, DEFINITLEY HITS THAT MARK FOR THE AREA.

Do not know about the area, but I know that I will find it difficult to get an appraiser to give me a discounted value upon completion of improvements in the three weeks that the lender will have.

I AGREE. THE BUILDINGS HAVE AN ESTIMATED VALUE OF WELL OVER $2M AS IS. THE PRINCIPLES HAVE 60 DAYS ON THE PURCHASE SALES AGREEMENT, MY TYPO, MEANT 60 NOT 30.

Is the borrower willing to go for an acquisition loan first to give time for the underwriting of the conversion?

ABSOLUTELY. I WAS THINKNG DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS WITH THE PURCHASE SALES AGREEMENT THAT WE GO INTO PRESALES ASAP AFTER ACQUISITION CLOSING, USE THE 20%, OR $1,150,000 TOWARDS CONVERSION AND UNDERWRITING. I'VE DONE A FEW MUCH LARGER ONES LIKE THIS WITH MORGAN STANLEY IN THE PAST. BUT THIS DEAL, MONEY WISE, IS NOT WITHIN THEIR SO-CALLED THRESHOLD.

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Ron
QUOTE(nypbbob @ Dec 2 2005, 09:58 AM)
PLEASE SEE COMMENTS IN CAPS

THANK YOU FOR TAKNG THE TIME TO POST QUESTIONS
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A friend of mine is doing a condo conversion in san Diego his credit was not all that great but he found a loan officer and the guy worked really hard to put the loan together for him. He has also helped me with the condos that I'm building. If loan universe would allow I would give you the number to contact him. I have done a few construction projects but this guy really worked for me. It was worth it.
loanuniverse
QUOTE(Ron @ Dec 2 2005, 01:07 PM)
If loan universe would allow I would give you the number to contact him. I have done a few construction projects but this guy really worked for me. It was worth it.
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